vista still requires ntsc tuner

I went in to configure my Fusion HDTV tuner.
I was shocked that Vista MCE wouldn't let me since it couldn't find an NTSC tuner.
Why the heck do they have such a stupid requirement?
Tom

Worked for me. But I had to use an earlier version of the software rather than the latest. The latest kept crashing the system during install.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message

I went in to configure my Fusion HDTV tuner.
I was shocked that Vista MCE wouldn't let me since it couldn't find an NTSC tuner.
Why the heck do they have such a stupid requirement?
Tom

Which version did you use? Are you using an ATSC tuner? "Marco" wrote in message

Worked for me. But I had to use an earlier version of the software rather than the latest. The latest kept crashing the system during install.
"Tom Scales" wrote in message I went in to configure my Fusion HDTV tuner.
I was shocked that Vista MCE wouldn't let me since it couldn't find an NTSC tuner.
Why the heck do they have such a stupid requirement?
Tom

"Tom Scales" wrote in message

Which version did you use? Are you using an ATSC tuner? "Marco" wrote in message Worked for me. But I had to use an earlier version of the software rather than the latest. The latest kept crashing the system during install.

Even if you have an ATSC (digital) tuner, you still (even with Vista Media Center) need an NTSC (analog) tuner. While quite a number of such tuner cards (including the ATI HDTV Wonder) exist, they are not really intended to use *both* their tuner sections (the HDTV Wonder is intended to be used as a *secondary* tuner to either a Theater 550/650 card or All-In-Wonder card, even though it can be used as a dual-tuner card). The KRAM TV tuner software restores the included dual-tuner functionality to the HDTV Wonder for use in either Media Center Edition 2005 or Vista beta 2; in my case, I have the NTSC side connected to cable TV, and the OTA HDTV side connected to the Silver Sensor clone included with the tuner card. While tuning works just fine (even in a window), the EPG doesn't work (I have submitted a bug report on this, and will continue to do so until this is fixed).
The All-In-Wonder-based cards (with the Theater 200 decoder) are still wholly unsupported and unusable as TV tuner cards in Windows Vista beta 2 (and only the AIW X800XT and *earlier* are usable in MCE 2005 with Catalyst 6.3 and earlier) due to a driver change affecting all AIWs.
Christopher L. Estep

"Christopher L. Estep" wrote in message

"Tom Scales" wrote in message Which version did you use? Are you using an ATSC tuner? "Marco" wrote in message Worked for me. But I had to use an earlier version of the software rather than the latest. The latest kept crashing the system during install.
Even if you have an ATSC (digital) tuner, you still (even with Vista Media Center) need an NTSC (analog) tuner. While quite a number of such tuner cards (including the ATI HDTV Wonder) exist, they are not really intended to use *both* their tuner sections (the HDTV Wonder is intended to be used as a *secondary* tuner to either a Theater 550/650 card or All-In-Wonder card, even though it can be used as a dual-tuner card). The KRAM TV tuner software restores the included dual-tuner functionality to the HDTV Wonder for use in either Media Center Edition 2005 or Vista beta 2; in my case, I have the NTSC side connected to cable TV, and the OTA HDTV side connected to the Silver Sensor clone included with the tuner card. While tuning works just fine (even in a window), the EPG doesn't work (I have submitted a bug report on this, and will continue to do so until this is fixed).
The All-In-Wonder-based cards (with the Theater 200 decoder) are still wholly unsupported and unusable as TV tuner cards in Windows Vista beta 2 (and only the AIW X800XT and *earlier* are usable in MCE 2005 with Catalyst 6.3 and earlier) due to a driver change affecting all AIWs.
Christopher L. Estep

I understand the what, just not the why. What does an NSTC tuner have to do with HD? BeyondTv doesn't require it.

I"m in Australia so using Dvico DVB-T Plus and Dvico DVB-T Lite. I don't have an analogue tuner but my video card supports analogue input and output (ASUS ATI Radeon AX 850). I'm using Fusion Ver 3.00. All works well.
Hope this helps and Good luck
"Christopher L. Estep" wrote in message

"Tom Scales" wrote in message Which version did you use? Are you using an ATSC tuner? "Marco" wrote in message Worked for me. But I had to use an earlier version of the software rather than the latest. The latest kept crashing the system during install.
Even if you have an ATSC (digital) tuner, you still (even with Vista Media Center) need an NTSC (analog) tuner. While quite a number of such tuner cards (including the ATI HDTV Wonder) exist, they are not really intended to use *both* their tuner sections (the HDTV Wonder is intended to be used as a *secondary* tuner to either a Theater 550/650 card or All-In-Wonder card, even though it can be used as a dual-tuner card). The KRAM TV tuner software restores the included dual-tuner functionality to the HDTV Wonder for use in either Media Center Edition 2005 or Vista beta 2; in my case, I have the NTSC side connected to cable TV, and the OTA HDTV side connected to the Silver Sensor clone included with the tuner card. While tuning works just fine (even in a window), the EPG doesn't work (I have submitted a bug report on this, and will continue to do so until this is fixed).
The All-In-Wonder-based cards (with the Theater 200 decoder) are still wholly unsupported and unusable as TV tuner cards in Windows Vista beta 2 (and only the AIW X800XT and *earlier* are usable in MCE 2005 with Catalyst 6.3 and earlier) due to a driver change affecting all AIWs.
Christopher L. Estep